I've known Davey personally since '80. I liked his dad! We got along great. Timmy was always nice to me, but we never talked that much as we were in the same class alot. His sister and mom were always nice to me. But Davey and I never got along that great. It really came to a head in '83 when I was at Steel City and he was taking pictures. I came around a turn and really got on it with my Maico, and I didn't notice him on the outside of the turn taking pictures. I guess I really roosted him bad. After practice was over he was at my pits and wanted to fight, and my dad and his dad had to hold him back. He was yelling and screaming, calling me everything but a white guy. I really didn't see him but he didn't care. Ever since then it went down hill. I still got along with the rest of his family O.K. up until I left the area in '88, but then again we were racing twice aweek at his tracks and I usually had two or three other racers with us when we went.